Lydia Cornell: IRON MAN * STEVE SPITZ * HERCULES at the GETTY

Tuesday, May 06, 2008

IRON MAN * STEVE SPITZ * HERCULES at the GETTY

IRONMAN... and HERCULES AT THE GETTY VILLA

We all need to read Eckhart Tolle's new book A NEW EARTH — which has a section about how the rise of the male ego has dominated the world and virtually annihilated the nurturing, sacred feminine. This has created a catastrophic imbalance in our world and we are reaping the pain now. That said, I saw IRONMAN on Friday night and loved it. I thought Robert Downey, Jr. was brilliant — and I loved his inventor's lab with the 3-D computers. Of course the villain was a company like Halliburton and Blackwater or any giant weapons manufacturer. It was a morality tale about our blood lust. Why on earth is the U.S. so proud of it's hi-tech "smart" weapons that annihilate tribes of helpless civilians?

Took my stepson to the Getty Villa Museum in Malibu for extra credit this weekend. It's the home of ancient Greek, Roman and Etruscan antiquities. It is the most spectacular place, an exact replica of a spectacular Roman villa. Saw the bronze Victorious Youth, the Herculaneum Women. Here is Hercules, and below is a papyrus scroll piece from Homer's original Odyssey -- the actual original writing by Homer from 100 B.C.

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BETTER LIVING WITH STEVE SPITZ at MORONGO!
Taped a great show "Better Living with Steve Spitz" where I cooked my favorite Sesame Tofu recipe and chatted with the amazing Steve Spitz. SteveSpitz.com What a cool human being! Spitz does humanitarian work for Children with Aids, cooks, designs, is very spiritual and was the original inventor of honey mustard dressing. We filmed his really fun new talk show in the Desert at Morongo - a stunning hotel and casino which has five star dining at a sky-high all glass 3-story dining room overlooking the beautiful canyon below Idyllwilde. (Remember Albert Brook's classic Modern Romance when he and Kathryn Harold go to Idyllwilde?) Tony Dennison from The Closer was another guest on the show.

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People who create music blow me away. This song is so gorgeous it made me cry. And the generosity of the free piano teachers on You Tube that show close up lessons are like angels.
My stepson Kevin (12) has been learning this song "APOLOGIZE" by One Republic on his Yamaha piano. Click on this You Tube video and watch this gifted pianist play the piano part to this beautiful song. The version with TIMBLALAND and ONE REPUBLIC is below.

APOLOGIZE by ONE REPUBLIC with TIMBALAND

Another wonderfully generous pianist named "Ryan" shows you CLOSE UP how to play this song:
Apologize Close UP piano lesson
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Also: please comment on Rush Limpbotomy's comments and the way he is inciting a riot with his "Operation Chaos." The FCC needs to revoke Rush Limbaugh's license. This divisive, hateful "excellence in broadcasting has no place on the public airwaves. The propaganda must cease.

On Monday April 28, 2008, Bill Press will be the guest on the Basham and Cornell Radio heard weekday mornings at 8 a.m. on 1230 AM KLAV in Las Vegas and worldwide on the web.

Bill Press is a political commentator and author. He was the chair of the California Democratic Party from 1993 to 1996. He has served in different appointed positions such as a chief of staff to California State Sen. Peter Behr (a Republican) and director of the California Office of Planning and Research under Gov. Jerry Brown. One of the country's most well-known progressive commentators addresses how--and why--the conservative movement went off the rails in his new book “Trainwreck: The End of the Conservative Revolution (and Not a Moment Too Soon)”

According to even Newt Gingrich, "Republicans have lost their way." Always better with one-liners than worthwhile policies, John McCain recently said, "We spent money like a drunken sailor. Although I never really knew a sailor, drunk or sober, with the imagination of my colleagues."

Bill Press, however, says the Republicans have been governing exactly the way you'd expect. If a politician's most basic belief is that government always fails, why would anyone think he'd try to prove otherwise? Trainwreck details the rise of the modern conservative movement from Robert Taft to Ronald Reagan and its fall from Newt Gingrich to the abject failure of George W. Bush.

Once champions of fiscal responsibility, conservatives have brought us, instead, record high federal spending and bloated budget deficits. Once leery of foreign entanglements, conservatives have launched us, instead, into an unprecedented age of imperial wars and conquests. Once apostles of honesty and integrity in government, conservatives have, instead, used their positions of power to enrich themselves or evade the rule of law.

For decades, conservatives struggled to topple liberals from the federal throne, but, once in power, they didn't deliver. Everything they touched, they trashed. Here is the story of who, how, and why.

UPCOMING GUESTS: Bill Press, Senators Tom Daschle, Lincoln Chaffee and Arlen Specter. If you live in Vegas you can tune in Live or go to our website and listen in the audio archives.

The Basham and Cornell Show broadcasts weekday mornings at 8 am Pacific (11 a.m. Eastern) on KLAV 1230 AM Radio live in Las Vegas. Again, all shows are simulcast worldwide on the Internet (and archived) and can be listened to at Basham and Cornell Radio If you've missed our show, check out the audio archives. We have interviewed John & Elizabeth Edwards, Dennis & Elizabeth Kucinich, John Dean, Pat Buchanan, NBC Bureau Chief in Tel Aviv Martin Fletcher, Pulitzer Prize winner Charlie Savage, Congressman Charlie Rangel,Valerie Plame, Christine Pelosi, Larisa Alexandrovna, Dahr Jamail, Senator Mike Gravel; Senator Byron Dorgan; bestselling authors Greg Palast, Paul Krugman, Greg Anrig.

The Basham and Cornell Show broadcasts weekday mornings at 8 am Pacific (11 a.m. Eastern). All shows are simulcast on the Internet (and archived) and can be listened to at www.BashamAndCornell.com

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310 Comments:

GREAT interview with Bill Press today............i REALLY need to read his book after I read Krugman's and Kevin Phillips new book.....................It was awesome to hear someone else actually say McSame is nothing but an Angry old war mongering fool and that the phony image he has constructed of a moderate and a maverick might have been somewhat true at one time but right now his image is just as phony and just as dishonest as the one of a moderate and "Compasionate Conservative"............that the Crawford Caligula who will be the next Depression president tried to construct................GWB made a pathetic attempt to immitate Reagan from when he bought ther pig farm and converted it into a "ranch" so he could look like a cool regular guy clearing brush, to his simple dumbed down talk and arrogant cowbow bravado.

All it was was a pitiful attempt to stem outsi8de daddies shadow and try to make a name for himself by acting like his hero and "acting" like a tough guy...........because we all know pretending is the closest that gutless idiot could get to being a tough guy.

By Mike, at 5:48 PM
Thank you Mike!

Hey listen to this beautiful song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdOAr_4FJvc

It's the piano version to Apologize by One
Republic.

By Lydia Cornell, at 5:50 PM
McCain Calls Obama Insensitive to Poor

By RASHA MADKOUR, AP
Posted: 2008-04-27 20:08:27
Filed Under: Elections News, Barack Obama, John McCain
CORAL GABLES, Fla. (April 27) - Republican presidential candidate John McCain on Sunday called Democratic rival Barack Obama insensitive to poor people and out of touch on economic issues.

The GOP nominee-in-waiting rapped his Democratic rival for opposing his idea to suspend the tax on fuel during the summer, a proposal that McCain believes will particularly help low-income people who usually have older cars that guzzle more gas.

"I noticed again today that Sen. Obama repeated his opposition to giving low-income Americans a tax break, a little bit of relief so they can travel a little further and a little longer, and maybe have a little bit of money left over to enjoy some other things in their lives," McCain said. "Obviously Sen. Obama does not understand that this would be a nice thing for Americans, and the special interests should not be dictating this policy."

The Arizona senator deflected questions about his record on the Bush administration's tax cuts — he initially opposed them but now supports extending them — by again criticizing Obama.

"Sen. Obama wants to raise the capital gains tax, which would have a direct effect on 100 million Americans," McCain said. "That means he has no understanding of the economy and that he is totally insensitive to the hopes and dreams and ambitions of 100 million Americans who will be affected by his almost doubling of the capital gains tax."

In an interview with "Fox News Sunday," Obama said McCain "not only wants to continue some of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and corporations, he actually wants to extend them, and he hasn't told us really how he's going to pay for them. It is irresponsible. And the irony is he said it was irresponsible."

Obama also said he would not raise the capital gains tax higher than it was under President Reagan and added, "I'm mindful that we've got to keep our capital gains tax to a point where we can actually get more revenue."

By Mike, at 5:50 PM
This bogus dishonest BS NEEDS to be addressed.........

FIRSTLY, isnt it "INTERESTING" that the candidate of the Orwellian party of dishonesty and his mirror image that has infected the Democratic party would call Obama an elitist and insensitive to the poor when THEY are the ones proposing the repeal of an 18 cent tax for a mere 3 months, while Obama has proposed substantial tax cuts for those making less than $75,000..........I believe he said between $1000-$1500............lets examine what McSame and Shillery are proposing and see exactly who the elitists are who are insensitive to the poor.

McSame wants an 18 cent tax repealed for 3 months so when you examine this you see that...

1) 18 cents a gallon is roughly equivalent to $2 a week or around $25 total for the whole program.

2) Secondly How much of an actual impact do you think $25 is going to make to those struggling to keep their homes, or who cant afford to drive to work or feed their kids or afford adaquate medical care for their families.

3) like usual the repugs prefer to steal from the working class and poor and give to the rich rather than actually help the working class............Obama wants to give a substantial I believe 4 figure tax cut to help the working class, while McSame and Shillery are proposing around a paltry $25 to EVERYONE............do you REALLY think Warren Buffet and Bill Gates NEED the extra $25 and can you honestly say its a wise use of resources to give it to them rather than specifically targetting the working class making less than $75,000 who REALLY need help.

So in closing I ask you guys who sounds like the elitist who is insensitive to the poor and who sounds like the real deal rather than a sound bite queen or welfare queen for the wealthy, who sounds more like Marie Antoinette saying let the peasants eat cake and who sounds more like FDR?

By Mike, at 6:07 PM
That was good Lydia, do you know that guy.......the name sounds kinda familiar?

By Mike, at 6:11 PM
There have been rumors circulating that Rev Wright is now on Shillery's payroll..........at this point although i do find it curious that he is putting himself out there SO MUCH.........i'm still kinda skeptical of this, as it could be repug or Shillery propaganda to hurt people's credibilty and brand them conspiracy theorists.

So with that said........do you guys think this could be true, or do you think its repug and/or Shillery disinformation?

By Mike, at 6:16 PM
I think its all a bunch of shit.

ALL of it. Obama, Clinton, fighting, bickering, like two cheap used car salesman, and the news, including Keith Olberman, focusing on this fRACKING Rev Wright bullshit.

Obama's running for President of the United States. Not Rev Wright.

So who CARES what the pastor of his church says? Obama didn't say it, the pastor did. It has NOTHING to do with the election. Not ONE DAMNED thing. But Olberman and the rest are content to spend a quarter hour a night blabbering endlessly on it so ultimately it will have something to do with the election probably.

Because everyone keeps talking about it like it means something, which it most certainly does not.

By BARTLEBEE, at 6:50 PM
And if Obama's campaign manager had even half a brain (instead of just half a wit) then he'd tell Obama to tell the next person who asks him about something Rev Wright said to go ask Rev Wright and stop pestering him about it.

Because it doesn't have a g0damned thing to do with him.

By BARTLEBEE, at 6:54 PM
And I doubt Obama lost the vote in PA. Its the damned diebolds and the lying pollsters, who target their audience depending on what result their client desires.

The republicans don't want to run against Obama. McCain cannot beat him.

But McCain might have a chance against Clinton.

By BARTLEBEE, at 6:58 PM
Its all fubar.

Democrats are idiots.

Complete and utter idiots.

Even with their big fat brains, they're still idiots.

Because like Forrest Gump's mom used to say, "stupid is as stupid does". And everything they do with regards to getting elected, is stupid.

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:01 PM
If either of these candidates really cared about the country, they'd announce they were dropping out to add cohesion to the party so we could actually win in the general election.

Instead, just 7 months before the general election, here they are tearing the party apart, and moving McCain ahead in the polls.

Its not the died in the wool libs who they're turning. Its the fence-sitters, and the conservatives with brains, who wanted to vote dem this year, but just won't be able to bring themselves to after this kindergarten cockfight Obama and Hilary are launching.

If one of them really cared about America they'd bow out for the greater good,and the other could take them as veep, ensuring LOTS of votes.

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:04 PM
It reminds me of the story from the Old Testament found in 1st Kings about the two women fighting over a child, whose case is brought before Solomon.

Solomon decrees the child shall be divided in half, and 1 half given to each woman claiming to be the childs mother. When one of the woman come forward and withdraws her claim, offering to give the child to the other woman so as not to harm it, Solomon gives the child to her instead, seeing that she was the true mother, or at least the one best suited to raise the child. As she was the only one of the two who put the child above her own desires.

Our country is the child.

Obama's one mother.

Hilary's the other mother.

Which one really loves the child?

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:11 PM
I am sad that the media has so much power to obsess and spin everything. The best thing Obama can do is rise above it, let it diminish by his making one final statement distancing himself from the narcissist and ego-maniac Rev. Wright.
You only make your enemies stronger by coming down to their level and validating their petty arguments. The quicker Obama ignores this whole thing the more insane and stupid everyone else looks.

Spiritually he just has to rise above it and let them muck about in the mud like piglets.

By Lydia Cornell, at 7:14 PM
Which one will put the country above their own desires?

At this point its been neither.

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:14 PM
It's like Al Qaeda -- we obsessed about them until we virtually emboldened them. We gave our enemies life by focusing on them so much.

By Lydia Cornell, at 7:15 PM
Hey, click on the you tube video on the blog page. It's so beautiful. Music makes me believe in something much bigger and divine.

By Lydia Cornell, at 7:16 PM
Bart, I agree with everything you said EXCEPT the part about Obama fighting with Hillary.................whats he supposed to do just let the lying Bit$% run over him............see thats what liars like Rove, Bush, Cheney, Penn< hillary love to do they love to muddy the waters and lie and say both candidates are slinging mudd and lying and they are both bad when thats not accurate at all.................Hillary's campaign equates getting the truth out and putting out facts that are unfavorable to Clinton to lying, smearing, spinning, character assassination deflection of issues etc......

Also While i agree with you that the press focusing on REv Wright ad Nauseum is pathetic and despicable...........i think Olberman is one of the good guys the few times i've seen him he was taking Clinton and McSame to task for their hippocrissy.

By Mike, at 7:19 PM
BTW Bart, i agreed with everything you said last week about Donahue and Bill Maher...........i just had a real busy week and didnt have time to respond,

By Mike, at 7:20 PM
Seriously. Someone answer that please? How can either of them really give a crap about the country or the party to continue this ugly cockfight they've been waging?

Do they honestly think they're wining hearts and minds?

Do they honestly think theres going to still be time to launch any kind of real campaign to sell themselves on the fencesitters when this clusterfrack is through?

Does either of their campaign managers own a calendar?

Novembers just around the corner, and all the fencesitters are seeing and hearing about with regards to the two democratic candidates are smeers and jeers and all the smut and crap that can be found.

And the worst part is, NONE of its coming from the right wing.

Anyone notice that?

Anyone notice that the McCain campaigns doing NO smearing or muckracking?

Wanna know why?

Because the democrats are doing it for them.

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:23 PM
Mike said...
Hillary.................whats he supposed to do just let the lying Bit$% run over him............see

At one point, YES.

Its not about "HIM" Mike.

Its about the country. All 399 MILLION of us.

And continuing this debaucle just months before the general is bringing closer and closer to the possibility of actually losing the general, just because these two knuckleheads couldn't put the people above the primary.

And if we lose the general over this bullshit, it won't really matter at that point then who won the primary's, now will it?

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:25 PM
If EITHER of them cared about the country, they'd go to the other and offer to be their veep and give them the nomination.

Then that one can be either the first female VP in history, or the first black VP in history.

Or they can continue destroying each others character, and then they can both spend the rest of their time playing masters celebrity golf.

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:28 PM
While we live under a country ruled by the prototype of the character played by Slim Pickens in Dr Strangelove.

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:29 PM
cosmiccowboy said...
As I said today on enigma's blog,Obama has to get out in front of this Rev.Wright thing.
I think Wright is out for his 15 minutes of fame or is a crackpot.
The media is going to ride this for as long as the can,all they care about is ratings,nothing else.
If Obama doesnt come out and really distance himself from Wright
we will be seeing these rants of his until election day.
Obama lost the white vote by a wide margin in Pa.,this could also hurt him in Indiana."

Obama NEEDS to focus on the economy, healthcare, and other REAL issues.............MCSAME gave him the PERFECT opening with that stupid comment he made and his stupid position on the gas tax...........Obama needs to dismantle McSame and make him look like an agry old fool like I just did.

By Mike, at 7:31 PM
After all the muck and character assasinations going on from both sides of this democratic debaucle, its going to take a year just to undo the damage done to their public images and for the public forget.

Problem is, we don't have that much time.

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:33 PM
I disagree Bart.............Obama NEEDS to win this..............Hillary is almost as bad as him.........she acts just like Rove and Bush and if she wins i will probably never support the Democrats again unless they form another party.

Come on she acts just like the Orwellian fascists we've railed on for the last 5 years and you say he should just step aside and we should all fall in line and support the witch..........i'm not buying what your selling...............its sad that people set the bar so damn low that better than a repug becomes acceptable.

If theres a possibility of steak, i wont settle for dog food because its better than dog shit!

Now I realize that McSame is unstable and he has essentially guatanteed war so many justify the lesser of two evils...........but What we say can shape who the candidate is..........if people say they wont support hillary even if they would if she was the non it could force the super delegates hands and end this.

By Mike, at 7:39 PM
I know you want Obama Mike. I do too. But its not about what we want, or who gets elected.

At this point, we've got another disaster being positioned to take over for our previous disaster.

Bush was disaster 1 and McCains disaster 2.

We need to be more concerned at this point about making sure Mad Man McCain doesn't win rather than worrying about who wins the primary.

Ask yourself this question.

Will you be happy if Obama wins the primary but McCain wins the general?

Because thats where we're heading if this keeps up.

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:42 PM
Bart said "And the worst part is, NONE of its coming from the right wing.

Anyone notice that?

Anyone notice that the McCain campaigns doing NO smearing or muckracking?

Wanna know why?

Because the democrats are doing it for them."

Well they got started now mcSame has been going after him and the North Carolina repug party is attacking him..................Obama scares the c rap outta the Reich Wing......they are doing EVERYTHING possible to try to run against Hillary!

By Mike, at 7:42 PM
Think I'm kidding? Then you've got a short memory.

2 months ago McCain was polling around 30 percent.

Now, after two months of ignorant bickering and slandering each other, Obama and Clinton have managed all by themselves to move McCain ahead in the polls to a solid 50 percent.

And the McCain campaign didn't have to raise a finger.

They just let us do it for them.

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:44 PM
Mike said...
I disagree Bart.............Obama NEEDS to win this..............

Mike, I know you're a smart guy, so listen to what I am saying.

I am saying its not going to matter soon if its Hilary or Obama if this continues.

Just 2 months of this bickering has cost us a whopping TWENTY PERCENT of the general vote!!!

Do you get it?

2 months ago, if one of them had emerged as victor, we would have had a 70\30 split, and barring any major catastrophes, sailed into the general for a win.

Now its FIFTY FIFTY!!!

2 months of stupid, ignorant bickering has cost us our lead!

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:51 PM
No I dont think you are kidding.............I see the Dems chances imploding i've been saying she is destroying the party for 3 months now.

And I agree that McSame would me a disaster and a nightmare and could start WW3...........but I havent given up yet.

I'm still willing to take a risk and go for the Maximax rather than settle for the minimax............i'm still hopping for that steak rather than being willing to settle for dog food.

Clearly i'm out of touch with you guys..........I will say this if McCrazy or Clinton win............I'll likely give up blogging, rip up my voting card and probably not ever vote again till this countyry is ready for real change instead of the brainwashing and media sorcery the MSM gives us to manipulate things the way they want.

By Mike, at 7:55 PM
You gonna sit back are you and open a Sam Adams for a toast when Obama wins the primary only to lose the general?

Because THATS where we're heading.

If this continues, you can celebrate Obama's primary win up until January, when John McCain is sworn in as commander and chief.

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:55 PM
This isn't my opinion Mike.

McCains gained a whopping TWENTY PERCENT in the polls thanks to this idiotic cockfight between the two democratic candidates.

Which means much more, and we'll lose the general for sure.

Hell did you watch Bill Maher?

Even GARRY SHANDLING was talking about voting for McCain!!!

Holy sh$t. Thats when we know we're in trouble.

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:57 PM
Mike said...
i've been saying she is destroying the party for 3 months now.

And thats the problem.

You're blaming HER, instead of blaming THEM.

Its THEM Mike.

Not her.

Not him.

THEM.

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:59 PM
I think if this is settled by June 1st the dems still have a chance.................McSame cant compete on real issues "IF" and its becoming a big if there is enough time for the party to unite the Dems can still win EVEN if McCrazy is ahead in the polls NOW.

He wants to continue the war and 70%-80% of America are against the war.

He wants to continue GWB's Welfare for the Wealthy and 80% of America are against those economic policies.

He is against health care and most of America would prefer it

The list goes on and on...........I think if this disaster wraps up in the next month we can still win this and Obama is the stronger candidate thats why i havent given up.

By Mike, at 7:59 PM
Just because you like him doesn't remove him from the equation Mike.

It's BOTH of them destroying the party.

Not "her". And not him.

Its THEM.

By BARTLEBEE, at 7:59 PM
Mike said...
I think if this is settled by June 1st the dems still have a chance.

June???

We lost TWENTY POINTS in the last two months!!!

And you want to go to JUNE???

Heres a tip.

50 plus 50 plus 20 is over 100 percent. Elections are based only on 100 percent of the populace. Not 120 percent.

Therefore, if we lose another 20 points between now and June due to this ignorant cockfight (and you know they save the real smut for last), then we've already lost the general election.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:03 PM
Did you listen to Lydia's show this morning.........fear mongering is "ALL" the Reich Wing has left and America is sick and tired of that.

Hillary is playing the fear card.........she is HOPING that superdelegates think she wont quit no matter WHAT happens so they think the ONLY thing to do is support her.

I say we see how next weeks primaries play out and hope the Superdelegates all jump and force her out next week and we can unite.

By Mike, at 8:04 PM
Its time to see someone rise up.

If Obama deserved the praise you laud on him, then he'd do the right thing, and step up for the better of the country and end this debaucle.

This race is bigger than him, and bigger than her.

And if McCain wins, then God help us all.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:05 PM
Have you guys had any surveys lately, i have had two..........i'm thinking the superdelegates are nervous and are going to move to end this REAL soon.........I KNOW its getting ugly but I havent given up hope yet.

By Mike, at 8:06 PM
Mike said...

Hillary is playing the fear card.........she is HOPING that superdelegates think she wont quit no matter WHAT happens so they think the ONLY thing to do is support her.

Mike.

You're telling me bad things about Hilary.

Don't you see? You're blinded by your hate of her and your love for Obama.

You're not seeing the bigger picture. The picture the neocons don't want you to think about.

Everytime you say a bad thing about Hilary you tear down what may be our candidate to oppose McCain.

Every word you and the rest of us write, every bad story on the news, or smear from the Obama campaign, moves the chances of her winning the general against McCain that much further away.

And thats exactly what they want us to do.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:10 PM
Its not the superdelegates who need to end this. Its the candidates.

One needs to be the candidate and one needs to be their veep.

Then the entire party will come together.

But it won't work if they keep this smear campaign going.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:11 PM
He's been out of the news cycle for the last few days i'm wondering if he is considering dropping out.

By Mike, at 8:14 PM
The RNC and the DNC have one thing in common for this election.

They're both counting on democrats like you to help them win.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:14 PM
Well I dont think it would be wise for him to pick her as the VP.........possibly the other way around.........remember JFK and Lyndon Johnson!

By Mike, at 8:15 PM
I wish Hilary would drop out. But she's not big enough for that.

Sadly, he is.

And sadly, the one who is big enough to drop out will be the one who deserves to be president the most.

And its possible that even if he did drop out, the delegates might override and give it to him. After all, he's certainly the winner.

He's got the most momentum and the best chance of winning, and he certainly "seems" like the one who'll do better by the people.

At least he did until this debacule started.

But if one of them doesn't drop out soon the damage may be too much to recover from, and we could lose the whole ball game trying to stack the team in our favor.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:18 PM
Mike said...
Well I dont think it would be wise for him to pick her as the VP

Well Abraham Lincoln disagrees with you. After all he appointed his opponent William Seward as Secetary of State, one of the highest cabinet offices possible.

He also appointed another opponent, Salmon P Chase to Secretary of the Treasury.

And if Obama had Hilary for a running mate he'd sew up all those hardliners voting for her, that will likely vote for McCain or not at all rather than voting for him.

Not to mention it will show him as the wiser, more reasonable leader.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:24 PM
Think about it. The party's divided almost down the middle between Hilary and Obama.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that putting the two together is the best way to win the general.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:25 PM
Unfortunately, most people think like you are thinking Mike, and are more concerned with getting "their candidate" the nod than they are in winning the general election.

They're only thinking about "now".

What they want "now".

They're not thinking of the bigger picture, or the best interests of the country.

Bottom line is, either Obama or Clinton will be a million times better for the United States right now than the mad bombadier McCain.

So we need to suck it up, pack it up and everyone get behind the party, the people and the country.

Before we lose the whole kit and kaboodle.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:28 PM
Campaigning against Hilary like this right now is just cutting off your nose to spite your face.

If she wins the nod, and she might, then you've just spent the last 6 months helping the republicans to defeat our candidate.

You've just spent the last 6 months, helping John McCain become the President of the United States.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:34 PM
Hasn't anyone wondered why no trolls are in here? Or eslewhere?

With John McCain suddenly holding HALF the popular vote, don't you think they'd be in here and other blogs campaiging like MAD???

The reason they're not, is because the BEST thing the right wing can do right now, is just SIT BACK, and WATCH US CONSUME OURSELVES.

Which is EXACTLY what we're doing.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:35 PM
So keep bashing Hilary.

Keep rooting for Obama while destroying Hilary, and you Hilary supporters keep bashing Obama while rooting for her.

But if you're going to, you might want to see if the RNC will cut you a check or two.

After all, you're doing more good work for their campaign than any of their current paid staff are doing.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:41 PM
Not trying to be a downer, but thats just the way it is.

McCain picks up any more free votes off this democrat feud and we all might as well stay home come November.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:51 PM
The first mistake we made was thinking we already had it won.

We did of course.

Have it won that is.

But what we forgot was that there was still one horrible, powerful unbeaten nemesis out there that would do everything within their power to keep us from realizing that victory.

Us.

By BARTLEBEE, at 9:05 PM
Did anyone see Scalia last night on 60 minutes? How can he live with himself?

We have to be careful the right wing doesn't get one more SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. Then it's over.

We must win in November. The media enjoys this bickering, but we must unite and win.

By Lydia Cornell, at 9:07 PM
Its not enough to just say "we have to win in November" Lydia.

Or that we have to end the bickering.

We have to say what that means.

And theres only ONE way to do that and thats for ONE of the candidates to step up and concede for the benefit of the party and the nation. And the other needs to at least take them as their veep.

Because times up. We're out of time.

In the last 2 months we gave John McCain a TWENTY PLUS POINT BUMP!

Just by the smear campaigns from Hilary on Obama and Obama on Hilary. So it has to end NOW if we're going to win in November.

And that means ONE of them needs to bow out.

By BARTLEBEE, at 9:15 PM
I know its an ugly truth but its the only truth we've left ourselves.

In the last two months this fued has taken John McCain from what was surely to be an "also ran" with a dismal 30 percent (same as Bush) to whats now 50 percent.

50 percent!

We give him 5 more points and he holds, and thats the ball game!

One of these candidates needs to step up now, and if not, then like Mike said let the delegates do it for them. Call a special caucus and end it. Where's Howard Dean?

Where's DNC leadership?

Where's the concern for the country these two candidates claim to care about?

It needs to end now. Not in June. Not next month. Not next week. But NOW. One of them needs to bow out, or the party needs to do it for them.

By BARTLEBEE, at 9:22 PM
And you know what the really sad part is?

Even if it does end now, it may be too late.

In the last 2 months we've given McCain a 20 point bump to give him a nice solid 50 percent of popular vote.

So instead of having this thing "sewn up" like we did 2 or 3 months ago, we've got a FIFTY FIFTY shot of losing the whole thing.

FIFTY FIFTY.

This bickering between the two candidates and the associated smear campaigns have taken this election from a sure thing, down to a freaking coin toss.

By BARTLEBEE, at 9:25 PM
Hilary is a much less preferable choice from my perspective than Obama.

But McCain is a far less preferable choice than both of them.

So given mee druthers, I'd rather see Hilary Bilary than Col Klink take the Oval Office, rather than spend another 2 months destroying her character and credibility trying to get Barak Obama elected only to lose in the general election due to all the scandals and smears generated by our own party.

By BARTLEBEE, at 9:37 PM
Lydia Cornell said...
Did anyone see Scalia last night on 60 minutes? How can he live with himself?

We have to be careful the right wing doesn't get one more SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. Then it's over.

We must win in November. The media enjoys this bickering, but we must unite and win."

Thats a very valid point we NEED to consider we CANT let McSame win and get another Reich Wing Justice on the SCOTUS..............that said i think i'm following this election too closely..........i'm gonna go watch Race Against Time .

ANYONE who thinks Healthcare is an important issue or concerned about Reich wing judges taking over our courts and corpotate greed and a police state destroying this country NEEDS to watch this movie!

By Mike, at 9:39 PM
Not to be difficult, but if McCain wins the last thing you're going to be worried about is a Supreme Court nominee.

If McCain wins you'll be worried about your sons, daughters, neices and nephews.

If McCain wins its going to be non stop WAR.

By BARTLEBEE, at 10:25 PM
If McCain wins, we'll be worried about staying alive.

By BARTLEBEE, at 10:28 PM
Those who would flat-out refuse to support Hill had better go back and look at her Senatorial voting record, and then compare it with the embalmed zombie's.

Between the two of them, there is no way to argue that Hill isn't the preferable one, if you go strictly by voting record alone. I don't want her either, but if it's a choice of her or McCavein, I'm her best friend.

By Jolly Roger, at 10:42 PM
How can Scabia live with himself? He's never been anything but a greedy shill, and his work in advancing Chimpy has made him more money than he ever could have imagined.

Scabia was scum when he was first submitted. Then, we actually had a Congress that did things-but somehow, this bum still got past. He, Thomas, and Allito are jokes that make it difficult to have any respect for the Supreme Court.

By Jolly Roger, at 11:22 PM
The FCC needs to revoke Rush Limbaugh's license.

Amen, Lydia. What's scary is not that he says such things, but that there are actually sheeple who hang on every word.

By TomCat, at 11:57 AM
Both of those videos were great. The piano was beautiful. i love pure instrument.
I was sickened listening to Limbaugh and I refuse to believe how the likes of him and Coulter are not held accountable and tried for terrorism. I don't care who you are there is no roomfor public upheaval. I don't care whose fvor it is in!
I have to figure out some way to watch your show or listen to it at the same time I am doing my research because I can's stop outing the truth!

By an average patriot, at 3:54 PM
Thanks Tomcat and Average Patriot

All our shows are available on our website in the archives and you can listen to them on demand anytime. All free.

Love and Peace

By Lydia Cornell, at 6:08 PM
Jolly Roger said...

I don't want her either, but if it's a choice of her or McCavein, I'm her best friend.

You know it.

Problem is, by the time they get done publically destroying her character and she and her people get done publiclly destroying Obama's character they'll be unelectable.

We're handing the general election to McCain on a platter. In the past two months we've handed him a 20 points. A few more months and we won't have a prayer come November.

The DNC needs to show some leadership here and end this thing. Just PICK one.

I don't care who it is at this point just pick one and lets get a national campaign going for the general election, before we lose the whole damned thing.

By BARTLEBEE, at 8:50 PM
Call a special election or caucus, leverage the super-delegates, but enough of this crap. I thought it would be over in Pennsylvania but somehow Hilary won.

So now for the sake of the party, either one of these candidates who claims to care more about America than themselves needs to step forward and end this debacle.

And if neither of them can muster enough concern for the country to do it then the party leaders need to show some leadership and do it for them.

By BARTLEBEE, at 9:00 PM
What good is it to win the primarys but lose in the general election?

Particularly if the reason you lost the general was because of what you did to win the primary.

By BARTLEBEE, at 9:02 PM
After 8 years of George W Bush...

After Katrina, after Iraq, after the credit crisis, the domestic spying, after torture...

..after all this, you'd think the democrats would finally "get it", and come together for the big win.

Instead, we're all busy promoting one of our two presidential candidates while bashing the other and helping John McCain take the lead in the polls. He's already 6 points higher than Hilary.

Another month of this and we won't have to worry about who wins the primary, because the general will already be lost.

By BARTLEBEE, at 10:22 PM
And whatever idiots advising Obama to come out against his own pastor needs to find a new career, preferably in something he's better suited to. Like fast food.

Obama doesn't need to respond to this crap, because he isn't saying anything. His pastor is. All he has to say is talk to Rev Wright, because he said it, not me.

Instead he's now dragging himself down further into it and costing himself votes in the black community by publically condemning Wrights words.

What kind of braindead bonehead is advising Obama on this crap?

All Obama needed to do was LEAVE IT ALONE.

He didn't say it, Rev Wright said it. And everytime emptyheaded talking monkey with a microphone asks him about it he should tell him to ask Rev Wright, because last time he checked he wasn't responsible for Rev Wrights MOUTH.

:|

This ain't rocket science.

Just pick a candidate in enough time to actually launch a national campaign for the general, don't say stupid shit, and stay out of clusterf#@k entanglements like this Rev Wright bullshit that don't involve you.

How hard can that be?

By BARTLEBEE, at 10:31 PM
geesh, and to think we call Bush stupid.

At least he figured out a way to get elected. Twice.

:|

The democrats are handed the lead and they just hand it right back like they were passing a cassarole dish.

I can't stand it anymore!

I'm telling you I'm going nuts. BONKERS. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Its like we walk off the cliff and smash into the ground, only to dust ourselves off so we can climb back up the cliff to do it all over again.

Maybe you guys can cheer for these guys right now but I can't.

This ain't about who I'd like to have a beer with, or who really seems to "get people like me".

Its about getting the job done, and right now the democrats look like a monkey fuckin a football.

Either get it together quick, like yesterday, or give it up.

Cause if we don't, you're all gonna be sitting here come December scratching your asses, cursing the diebolds and talking about 2012.

By BARTLEBEE, at 10:46 PM
And if thats too depressing a thought for anyone, imagine how depressing it going to be this Christmas.

Wise up. F#$K your preferences. F#$K my preferences. F##K all of our preferences.

It ain't about what we want.

Its about not losing what we should have already won.

By BARTLEBEE, at 10:50 PM
Its about not losing what Bush and the republicans have handed to us, on a silver platter.

By BARTLEBEE, at 10:58 PM
BARTLEBEE said...
Jolly Roger said...

I don't want her either, but if it's a choice of her or McCavein, I'm her best friend.

You know it.

Problem is, by the time they get done publically destroying her character and she and her people get done publiclly destroying Obama's character they'll be unelectable.

We're handing the general election to McCain on a platter. In the past two months we've handed him a 20 points. A few more months and we won't have a prayer come November.

The DNC needs to show some leadership here and end this thing. Just PICK one."

I think your right that the DNC NEEDS to end this fiasco before irreparable damage is done.

I thought long and hard about what you and Lydia said and I agree with the vast majority of what you said....................Hillary is better than McSame........we cant let the Angry old man be the one with his finger on the button or the one nominating Supreme Court Justices...........so if Hillary is the Nom.......i'll be rooting for her........but i STILL have serious issues with her, the fear and smear Rovian campaign and the repug nazi talk she stooped too was a bridge burner for me.

The point where you lost me is when you say they are BOTH running negative smear campaigns and that there was voting fraud in Penn...........not trying to be a jerk and insult you here......but lets call a spade a spade, Hillary is the one running the negative campaign.

Its night and day different responding with the TRUTH or FACTS that are not favorable to your opponent and questioning their honesty, integrity, judgement and credibility as it is from lying, spinning, smearing, using fear mongering, smearing your opponents as unpatriotic, or hating your country........thats nazi/mccarthy demagogery, defelecting from real issues and focusing on scandals and smears, resorting to veiled rascism.

I agree with you i want this to be over, at this point i'm willing to root for Hillary and accept her as our non if thats whats decided..........but i thought more of you than to equate what Obama is doing to the type of campaign Hillary has run..........maybe your not following this as closely as i am but you;d have to be blind as a bat to equate the types of campaigns these two are running and say they are similar.

While I think this needs to end Next week or there coulkd be severe damage.........polls and people are fickle and once this returns to real issues rather than demagogery, MCarthy/Nazi like smears and tabloid BS the Dems can very easily pull ahead again particularly if gas is over $4.

You have a strong argument that we need to not tip this to the repugs by permanently alienating the party, i'm even willing to gag and accept a joint ticket if it becomes neccessary...........BUT i'm reluctantant to reward a spoiled brat who is throwing a tantrum and give them what they want becauses that only encourages others to throw tantrums in the future if they think it will get them what they want.

Bottom line he was MUCH more electable than her.......right now i'm no longer sure thats the case thanks to Hillary.............She on the other hand has been her own worst enemy, the lies, smears, fear monger, gutter politics and lack of sincerity and credibility have hurt her slightly but no where near what they have hurt him.

Again not trying to be a jerk, but after all the spin and BS we've heard out of the trolls and repugs i dont stand for it when our people do it either........My uncle was saying the sdame things you said and i wasnt buying it either.

I can accept we NEED to end this and root for EITHER candidate, i CANT accept that they are both equally wrong and are BOTH running negative smear campaigns because thats BS!

By Mike, at 12:22 AM
Lydia:
really good post...really loved the song - amazing...
I did send an email to you last night ( I hope it made it...)

I will be back later- I want to listen to the Bill Press Interview...

thanks...

By enigma4ever, at 6:27 AM
Mike said....

but lets call a spade a spade, Hillary is the one running the negative campaign.

Ok, lets.

What did Obama mean when he sent a letter to the NYT calling Hillary "D-PUNJAB" for her investments in India?

What was the Obama campaign doing investigating her financial background in the first place???

Why did Obama roll out three Serbian war veterans to discredit Hilary's story about dodging sniper fire, calling her "dishonest"?

Why does he say stuff like this?

"She's taken different positions at different times on issues as fundamental as trade, or even the war, to suit the politics of the moment. And when she gets caught at it, the notion is, 'Well, you know what, that's just politics. That's how it works in Washington. You can say one thing here and say another thing there.'" - Barak Obama

or this...

"“So maybe you say something about trade when you’re campaigning with your husband eight, 10, 12 years ago. You say something different now [when] you’re campaigning in Ohio or Pennsylvania." - Barak Obama

While I certainly concede the Clinton campaign has launched "more" character attacks than has the Obama campaign, its absolutely ridiculous to claim its "Hilary running the smear campaign".

Its BOTH of them.

Your problem is the same as everyone elses. You're reading everything with a bias towards "your candidate".

Sure Hilary's campaign is using dirty tricks. But its patently false to make the claim Obama's campaign is "above the frey".

Obama's campaigns just better at playing it down.

By BARTLEBEE, at 10:26 AM
When the Obama campaign publically suggested that Hilary Clinton was trying to suppress votes in Pennsylvania, without ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE, no one said a word.

We understand that the Clinton campaign may want to depress turnout because Barack Obama has closed a 20-point gap over the course of this month as voters across the state got to know him.”

“It has been the hallmark of the Democratic party to educate and protect the rights of voters. If the Clinton campaign disagrees with that principle, they should say so today.”
Obama Campaign Manager, Pennsylvannia

See, Obama's campaign is careful to disguise their smears in soft speak, and Clinton tends to be more direct.

But a smears a smear, and Obama's campaign is ANYTHING but "above the frey".

By BARTLEBEE, at 10:31 AM
When you take off your Barak Obama 3D sunglasses, you'll be better able to see the damage coming from BOTH sides of the isle, to the party, and the people.

Once again I steer you back to 1st Kings, and the story of the two mothers who both claimed to Solomon that the child was rightfully theirs.

When Solomon saw this, he ordered the child be divided in half, and one half given to each of the woman.

When one of the women came forward and offered to give the whole child to the other, so as to spare its life, Solomon knew the child was rightfully hers, whether by blood or love, because she was the only one of the two who actually cared about the child itself.

Its the same here.

WE'RE the child. US. The people of the US.

And Obama and Clinton are the two mothers.

Only in this scenario, when the king offered to split us right down the middle, they said "ok".

:|

If either of them really cared about the country, then they'd come forward and end this debacle.

By BARTLEBEE, at 10:36 AM
And whats bullshit, is to sit here calling Barak Obama a "uniter" when both he and Hilary have divided this party further apart than its ever been divided before.

Uniters my ass.

By BARTLEBEE, at 10:44 AM
Sorry Mike, you know me and I'm not trying to be a jerk either. Just accurate.

And your position is indefensible, as is the candidates.

If you doubt me then I suggest investing in a newer, better calendar and a better calculator as well, and