Lydia Cornell

Friday, May 25, 2007

FORGOTTEN VICTIMS OF WAR

FORGOTTEN VICTIMS OF WAR: THE CHILDREN
There have been many innocent victims resulting from George W Bush's war on Iraq. The U.S troops are obvious victims, as were the brave U.S troops who lost their lives in Iraq. The thousands of Iraqi's who have been killed since Bush's invasion, are all victims of this senseless war, as are the remaining Iraqi people.

One group of victims that are seldom noticed are the children. The children's agency of the U.N better known as UNICEF says that insecurity in Baghdad and other parts have caused schools to close, and left hospitals and clinics nearly impossible to gain access to.

UNICEF reports that only 30% of Iraqi children have safe drinking water as damaged sanitation systems increase the threat of diseases such as cholera and diarrhoea, which is the second highest cause of childhood death in Iraq.

The constant bombings and kidnappings have claimed the lives of many Iraqi parents leaving the children susceptible to abuse and exploitation. Iraqi children seldom receive the help and support they need to cope with such anxiety and fear.

Of the four million Iraqi's who have fled their homes since Bush invaded Iraq in 2003, one million of those are children. Some two million of those Iraqi's who have fled have remained in Iraq. The remaining two million have fled to Jordan, Syria and other countries in the region, where they live in extreme poverty.

The Iraqi children are not alone. Thousands of U.S children whose parent have been assigned to the war lines of Iraq are also in need. Many military spouses live in poverty as the spouse is left to help make ends meet and raise their children.

Those thousands of U.S soldiers who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan left spouses and children behind to cope with grief and life. This has brought added stress on an already heavily troubled life of a child.

It is of great question as to whether or not the Bush administration has taken into consideration how their actions have affected the children in the U.S and in Iraq. One has to wonder if the emotional devastation of a child's life was ever even a forethought.

As George W Bush shouts the servitude of sporadic altruism, he heartlessly ignores the effects of his military actions on the children of this war. Mr. Bush has decided to remake the world in his image, the very image of a man the world has grown to abhor. The life of a child is priceless, and the desires of madman are worthless. You Mr. Bush have proven to be worthless.

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."

George Bernard Shaw

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212 Comments:

  • The New York Times | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK | May 24, 2007 11:13 PM

    The House voted Thursday to drag into public view the role that registered lobbyists play in soliciting and collecting contributions for political campaigns, exposing for the first time one of the most effective ways that influence-seekers ingratiate themselves with lawmakers and presidents.

    The measure goes to the heart of how Washington does business by uncovering a hidden practice that sprang up as an unintended consequence of restrictions imposed by campaign finance laws. Because those laws cap individual contributions, now $2,300 per campaign, candidates have been turning to well-connected lobbyists to bundle stacks of checks to make up the millions they need to run their campaigns.

    It's about tikme.

    By Blogger Larry, at 5:07 AM  

  • AP | LAURIE KELLMAN | May 24, 2007 03:07 PM

    President Bush said Thursday he would address any wrongdoing uncovered by congressional or other investigations related to the firings of eight federal prosecutors, but added that new allegations have not swayed his support for Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

    "If there's wrongdoing, it will be taken care of," Bush told reporters at a Rose Garden news conference. Congress and the Justice Department are conducting separate probes into the firings, which Democrats say were improperly political.

    After they get through with their no confidnece vote, they need to take one on Reid and Pelosi.

    By Blogger Larry, at 5:09 AM  

  • Six more US soldiers have been killed in Iraq, the military said Friday, as Congress grudgingly passed a 120-billion-dollar war funding bill despite plunging public support for the mission.

    While attention has focused on the hunt for three kidnapped American troops and the debate in Washington, military casualties have been mounting; at least 44 more US soldiers have died since the trio was captured on May 12.

    The death count rises daily.

    By Blogger Larry, at 5:29 AM  

  • Looks like the surge is in the wrong city. If the Shiite factions start fighting amongst themselves as the British withdrawal out, the entire country will collapse, because Basra is both where US supplies come thru, and the only place oil gets exported out to provide money for the Iraqi government;

    Militias to intensify battle for Basra
    By Basil Adas, Correspondent


    Baghdad: Armed fighting between the British troops and the Mehdi Army headed by Shiite cleric Moqtada Al Sadr, will escalate in Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, warned Iraqi security forces and military experts.

    The warning comes after London's decision to begin troop withdrawal from Iraq.

    Zaman Al Khuzai, a major general in the former Iraqi army, told Gulf News: "I believe Americans will shift some of their forces to Basra and other Shiite southern provinces in case the United Kingdom starts an early troop pullout from Iraq.

    Security situation

    "Americans will keep a track of the Shiite militias, loyal to Iran, to prevent them from getting a grip on Basra and control of the situation, particularly as the government of [Prime Minister] Nouri Al Maliki is impotent and largely involved with militia infiltration in the state's institutions." He alleged: "The replacement does not amuse Al Maliki and other Shiite political and religious leaders who want to surrender the full security file to the Iraqi forces, which are accused by the British and Americans of being loyal to the dominant Shiite militias."

    Sources close to Iraqi intelligence revealed that the Mehdi Army has mobilised itself and its supporters are preparing to return to Iraq immediately after an early pullout of British forces.

    Some do not rule out a coup attempt. Muaid Abdul Mustafa Al Dulaimi, an expert in strategic military studies, told Gulf News: "The Mehdi Army and rival Shiite militias will attempt a coup to seize control of the entire official military and security establishments in Basra and other southern Iraqi cities."

    If this happens, "the [militias] will be extremely powerful and stronger than Al Maliki's government, especially as Iran will back the militias in the south more than supporting the government in Baghdad", Al Dulaimi said.

    It does not seem that Al Dulaimi's analysis is fully true as some reports confirm that the British withdrawal is likely to unleash a power struggle among main Shiite militia groups like the Mehdi Army and their rivals the Fadila party which engaged in clashes recently.

    Some sceptics believe that the British and Americans have a role in creating the current conflict between the two Shiite groups to spark off an internal fight in the Shiite block.

    The security situation in Basra is growing critical and witnesses struggles for interests and power between the United States, Britain and Iran.

    The development may spur Americans to bring a strong central Iraqi government led by the former Baathists as its primary mission will be to suppress Shiite militias and end Iranian influence in southern Iraq.

    By Blogger clif, at 6:34 AM  

  • Moqtada will soon enough own Basra. He's even come out of hiding now. He understands what our pResident and Congress don't seem to grasp-the game is just about over.

    As far as worrying about children? Chimpy only cares about them as long as they are fetuses. Once they've been born, buena suerte.

    By Blogger Jolly Roger, at 7:53 AM  

  • One in eight Iraqi kids will be killed this year.

    That speaks volumes about them "famibly values", don't it?

    By Blogger Carl, at 10:53 AM  

  • The Los Angeles Times | Richard B. Schmitt | May 25, 2007 01:07 PM

    The Justice Department has broadened an internal investigation into whether aides to Atty. Gen. Alberto R. Gonzales improperly took into account political considerations in hiring employees, officials familiar with the probe said Thursday.

    The expanded inquiry, conducted by the department's inspector general and its Office of Professional Responsibility, comes after testimony Wednesday by former Gonzales aide Monica M. Goodling.

    By Blogger Larry, at 10:57 AM  

  • This just in - George W. Bush has found his missing WMD’s - they were down at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue at Capitol Hill. They have been positively identified as Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV).

    Oh…you thought I meant Weapons of Mass Destruction? No, no, don’t be silly. There never were any of those. That was just some crap the Bush camp made up as an excuse to invade Iraq.

    I meant War Mongering Democrats….

    Pelosi and Reid say that this is a “first step” toward ending the war.

    So. Let me see if I’ve got this straight:

    The House and Senate have both approved giving this incompetent, lying, petulant little bully ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS to continue pouring down the death ridden rat hole that is the Iraq War and in return he has promised to remove the troops…when? Oh that’s right. HE DOESN’T HAVE TO WTHDRAW THE TROOPS AT ALL IF HE DOESN’T WANT TO.

    By Blogger Larry, at 11:02 AM  

  • Larry said...


    The Justice Department has broadened an internal investigation into whether aides to Atty. Gen. Alberto R. Gonzales improperly took into account political considerations in hiring employees, officials familiar with the probe said Thursday.



    Why do they need to broaden the investigation?

    Monica Goodling just admitted they did, live on camera, and under oath to the Congress of the United States.

    She confessed.

    Confessions usually indicate the conclusion of the investigation, not the onset of one.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:04 AM  

  • AP:

    US home sales fell in April to their lowest level in almost four years as the number of unsold properties on the market ballooned to a record high, an industry survey showed Friday.

    The monthly snapshot by the National Association of Realtors (NAR) dashed hopes that the ailing property market could be on the cusp of a rebound.

    The NAR said existing home sales dropped 2.6 percent to an annualized pace of 5.99 million last month, marking the second straight monthly decline in sales. Sales are now at their lowest ebb since June 2003.

    April's sales pace defied most Wall Street forecasts which had predicted a sales turnover of 6.13 million homes and apartments.

    The group blamed the decline largely on tighter mortgage lending standards amid mounting home foreclosures.

    "The continued decline in existing home sales and the huge rise in inventories put in doubt the hopes that the housing market is stabilizing," said Joel Naroff of Naroff Economic Advisors.

    The glut of homes for sale across the United States continued to mount last month, rising over 10 percent from March to a record inventory of 4.20 million properties. That represents an 8.4-month supply at the current sales clip, according to the NAR.

    Walter Molony, an NAR spokesman, said the number of unsold homes on the market was at a record high while the monthly supply of unbought properties was at its highest peak since August 1992.

    The inventory of homes lingering unsold on the market has swelled by 23 percent from April last year.

    "The softness in this segment of the housing market will discourage new construction activity in the near term meaning that the housing sector will remain a drag on the economy," economists at RBC Financial Group said in a briefing note.

    More of the Bush economy.

    By Blogger Larry, at 11:06 AM  

  • I think its time to start handing out indictments.

    She confessed.

    Our Justice department and government sure does employ a different standard when it comes to enforcing the laws for itself as opposed to enforcing them for us common folk.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:07 AM  

  • I'm ready for the indictments and then for the removal of Pelosi and Reid, so we can have the impeachment of Bush.

    By Blogger Larry, at 11:14 AM  

  • Does anyone here actually think that if they were being investigated for a crime, and they confessed, that the reaction of the police would be to "broaden their investigation"?

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:15 AM  

  • Goodling confessed.


    Whats everyone waiting for?

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:16 AM  

  • Thursday morning CBS News's Early Show criticized President Bush's latest justification for the Iraq War as being the first line of defense against al Qaeda, by citing an upcoming Senate Intelligence Committee report which states that the administration was warned before the invasion that a US presence in Iraq would actually increase terrorist influence.

    By Blogger Larry, at 11:18 AM  

  • Goodling not only confessed but she also brought Gonzales and Rove clearly into the mix.

    Two more indictments need drawn up.

    By Blogger Larry, at 11:20 AM  

  • The media black-out on the scandal involving DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey is surprising in light of the lack of lawsuits being leveled at the Wayne Madsen Report website. Instead of Dick Cheney and the recently resigned Randall Tobias filing libel and slander lawsuits against the site, we see only their silence. Moreover, the Wayne Madsen site has been continually expanding on this story - making this either the scoop of the century, or the biggest fairy tale in DC history.

    Consider this: WMR is now reporting specifically who at ABC News' 20/20 became fully aware of not only Cheney's use of the escort service, but dozens more "high profile" names - culled from the phone records only since 2002 (the escort services full records go back to 1994). ABC's crack team was reportedly gagged by their bosses after concerned calls from the White House. This would be amazing if true, yet no White House denial has been forthcoming as of this writing...

    By Blogger Larry, at 11:27 AM  

  • In November of 2006, the Democrats achieved a sweeping victory of the midterm elections, winning back both the House and Senate on a platform of ethics and ending the Iraq war. Several months into power and the Democrats have already abandoned those two values and have traded an end to the Iraq War for $17 billion in earmarks and pork.

    By Blogger Larry, at 11:28 AM  

  • The U.S. military announced on Friday the deaths of six more soldiers in Iraq, underscoring President George W. Bush’s prediction on Thursday that a bloody summer lay ahead.

    By Blogger Suzie-Q, at 12:01 PM  

  • According to a recent poll on Daily Fuel Economy Tip, nearly 80% of people believe that oil and gasoline companies have manipulated the supply of gas in order to cause prices to shoot through the roof.

    By Blogger Larry, at 1:05 PM  

  • THE MAN WHO STOLE THE first DEMOCRATIC DEBATE Senator MIKE GRAVEL will be on our show tomorrow. We just did a 45 minute interview with Gravel, who is a 2008 Democratic Presidential candidate (and served 2 terms in the House. He was a Senator from Alaska too.)

    Gravel is a hero of mine; he is the only cadidate committed to telling the TRUTH and standing for his convictions.

    Please tune in tomorrow morning at 9 a.m.
    Live from Vegas on KLAV or on the web at:
    www.bashamandcornell.com

    By Blogger Lydia Cornell, at 2:30 PM  

  • Worfeus Goodling was testifying under an immunity agreement, which makes what she said not something they can use to prosecute her for.

    She played DUMB for congress but knew before she went in she had committed criminal acts at DOJ and was isolating her criminality from prosecution, or at least trying, but if evidence existed PRIOR to her testimony, or separate from her testimony and not linked to it, she might still be prosecuted.

    More answers, more questions.

    The Justice Department's Inspector General has broadened his investigation of the U.S. attorney firings, The Los Angeles Times and New York Times report this morning, to cover Monica Goodling's and others' political hiring of career employees at the department.

    And there would seem to be plenty of material there for investigation. For instance, Goodling admitted on Wednesday that she'd openly taken political factors into account in hiring immigration judges.

    For good reason, those are civil service positions, not political positions -- and they're supposed to be governed by civil service laws (meaning people are supposedly hired for their professional qualifications, not their partisan ones). They handle matters like deportation proceedings and political asylum requests. And there are only 226 of them. As the NY Times points out, approximately 75 of those "have been appointed during the Bush administration," 49 of those during Gonzales' tenure. So there can be no doubt that Goodling's political hiring practices have had an impact on the nation's immigration proceedings.

    Now, in her testimony, Goodling said that Kyle Sampson had told her that there was no problem with taking politics into account in hiring immigration judges. And the reason, he said, was that the department's Office of Legal Counsel had said it was OK. But...

    Justice Department officials said no such opinion existed.

    They also denied Goodling's assertion that the hiring of immigration judges had been frozen after the department's civil division raised concerns about using a political litmus test.

    "There is no disagreement within the department, including between the civil division and the Office of Legal Counsel, about whether the civil service laws apply to the appointment of immigration judges," said Dean Boyd, a Justice Department spokesman. "They do apply."


    As Marty Lederman puts it, "Something is happening here, but we don't know what it is. Goodling obviously knew that her conduct in this regard was dubious, and testified about it even though no one had raised any question about it previously, so as to ensure that her immunity would extend to this episode, as well. (She was very well-advised by John Dowd.)"

    To hear Goodling tell it, she was assured by the attorney general's chief of staff that there was a legal basis for stocking the nation's immigration courts with political loyalists -- when no such legal basis existed. And the Justice Department now disavows this activity all together. So how much did Alberto Gonzales know about this? And how much did the White House know? More questions...

    By Blogger clif, at 4:26 PM  

  • PRESIDENT SIGNS IRAQ SPENDING BILL WITH NO TROOP WITHDRAWAL TIMETABLE
    ----------------
    Well, imagine that!
    *snark*

    By Blogger Suzie-Q, at 4:56 PM  

  • Thats pretty cool you guys got Mike Gravel.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 5:17 PM  

  • Is anyone listening to the show???

    Mike Gravel rocks.

    He's smart, honest and on track.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 9:28 AM  

  • Is this live. Can we ask Mike Gravel questions?

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 9:29 AM  

  • Mike Gravel's got my vote.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 9:43 AM  

  • Mike Gravel is a brilliant man.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 9:46 AM  

  • I'm listening to the show but it just quit...I can't hear anything now!

    By Blogger Suzie-Q, at 9:53 AM  

  • Gravel was talking and it quit...

    By Blogger Suzie-Q, at 9:57 AM  

  • You and Doug knocked that one out of the ballpark today Lydia.

    EXCELLENT interview!

    The BEST yet!

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 10:04 AM  

  • It did that to me too Suzy, but it came back.

    You can listen to it tomorrow when its in the archives too.

    This was just a fantastic interview with Mike Gravel.

    They asked all the right questions and he gave all the right answers.

    It was brilliant.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 10:06 AM  

  • Suzie-q and Worf -- THANK YOU for listening,

    That was just a glitch and it is being fixed now. In fact it will be up in the archives sometime today.

    xo

    By Blogger Lydia Cornell, at 10:13 AM  

  • Worf, we pre-taped the Mike Gravel interview yesterday when his press secretary patched us in.

    By Blogger Lydia Cornell, at 10:15 AM  

  • Right on, Lydia! I missed the live show but I am going to download the archived show. I would give anything if a principled man like Mike Gravel would have a chance in this sick political system we're saddled with.

    Publicly Funded Elections!

    How great would it be if candidates did not have to get the money to run from fat corporate cats? How much more could we get done while they were in office? Imagine if our elected officials were not beholden to Big Pharma, Big Insurance, Big Oil, Big Credit, Big Agra?

    We'd have good, affordable health care. We'd have cleaner air. Our so-called 'immigration problem' would vanish. We wouldn't be desperately in hock to the credit companies. And I bet my bottom dollar we wouldn't be occupying another country.

    *sigh*

    By Blogger Alicia Morgan, at 10:19 AM  

  • Thats cool. I would have loved to talk to him.

    He sure liked you Lydia.

    He talked to you like you were his daughter or something.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 10:19 AM  

  • Alicia Morgan said...


    Publicly Funded Elections!


    And there it is.

    Until we get away from "corporate sponsored candidates" we will never get a truly "good man" in the White House.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 10:21 AM  

  • Hi Lydia:

    It was a super show! I really like Gravel after listening to him this morning. ;)

    I thought it must be a glitch...

    By Blogger Suzie-Q, at 10:25 AM  

  • Gravel is doing some few dare to do. He's speaking the truth as clearly as he can.

    He gave Congress a way to end the war.

    But Reid and Pelosi are more worried about vacation then they are the troops.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 10:31 AM  

  • Hi Worf:

    Yes, he is speaking the truth and I admire him for that. :)

    By Blogger Suzie-Q, at 10:41 AM  

  • Alicia, thank you for checking in. When can we hear more about your book?
    xo

    By Blogger Lydia Cornell, at 10:54 AM  

  • Just saw a report on BBC on the Chagos Islands, how we displaced all the happy people there, in order to build a military base in the 60's -- and how we ruined their lives on this island paradise.

    What Gravel said about the military industrial complex is so true, and I want him to write a book about it.

    By Blogger Lydia Cornell, at 11:03 AM  

  • The Bush administration and the neocons stacked the government with un-qualified undereducated and inexperienced people based soley on their political affiliation.

    Whats worse, real men and women, with experience and training were denied roles, and sidestepped so they could place uneducated, unqualified and unexperienced inbreds like Monica Goodling into office, where she oversaw REAL prosecuters and judges who were experienced and educated.

    You remember Goodling. She's the nimrod who just confessed to doing just that.

    She's also the nimrod who decided to cover the breasts of our famous statue of Justice.

    :|

    She is supposed to be a real prosecuter, but she had no real experience and she graduated from Jerry Falwells MESSIAH college, a BOTTOM ranked private religious school, where reading the bible supercedes reading text books.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:08 AM  

  • Goodling showed herself to be a hillbilly inbred neocon when she covered a HISTORIC, fine work of art, because she found the exposed breasts on the statue "offensive".

    This shows the level of uneducated bumpkins the neocons are made up of.

    Forget Venus DeMilo or other great works of art. We've got neocons who are "embarrased" by them so now we cover them up.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:12 AM  

  • Pat Lang, an expert intellgence analyst on the middle east who was an expert in arabic and Iraq, who also was a Green Beret with 3 tours in Viet Nam under his belt, was interviewed by several of the necon fat cats.

    When Doug Feith interviewed him, Feith asked him if he really was an expert on Arab's and he said yes.

    Then Feith said, "Too Bad".

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:18 AM  

  • Here is a recount of the interview from Lang.

    It was at the beginning of the first Bush term. Lang had been in charge of the Middle East, South Asia and terrorism for the Defense Intelligence Agency in the 1990s. Later he ran the Pentagon's worldwide spying operations.

    In early 2001, his name was put forward as somebody who would be good at running the Pentagon's office of special operations and low-intensity warfare, i.e., counterinsurgency. Lang had also been a Green Beret, with three tours in South Vietnam.

    One of the people he had to impress was Feith, the Defense Department's number three official and a leading player in the clique of neoconservatives who had taken over the government's national security apparatus.

    Lang went to see him, he recalled during a May 7 panel discussion at the University of the District of Columbia.

    "He was sitting there munching a sandwich while he was talking to me," Lang recalled, "which I thought was remarkable in itself, but he also had these briefing papers -- they always had briefing papers, you know -- about me.

    "He's looking at this stuff, and he says, 'I've heard of you. I heard of you.'

    "He says, 'Is it really true that you really know the Arabs this well, and that you speak Arabic this well? Is that really true? Is that really true?'

    "And I said, 'Yeah, that's really true.'

    "That's too bad," Feith said.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:23 AM  

  • And if you think thats something, just read this account of Lang's interview with Paul Wolfowitz.


    "I remember talking to [Paul] Wolfowitz, in his office, in the Pentagon, and telling him -- this was after the propaganda build up had started, before the war.

    I said, 'You know, these guys are not going to welcome you.'

    "He said, 'Why?'

    I said, 'For one thing, these guys detest foreigners, and the few who really like you are the least representative of the various breeds of people there.

    They're going to fight you, then, if you occupy the place there's going to be a massive insurgency.'"

    "He said, 'No, no, they'll be glad to see us,'" Lang continued. "This will start the process of revolution around the Middle East that will transform everything.'

    No, Lang told Wolfowitz, "that's not gonna happen. It's just an impossibility.

    They're not like that. They don't want to be us."

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:29 AM  

  • Worf, don't stop, please go on. Why did Feith say to Lang "Too bad (you know Arabic?)

    By Blogger Lydia Cornell, at 11:30 AM  

  • No thats where they interview ended according to Lang.

    He said it was weird. No explanation. Just "Too Bad".

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:34 AM  

  • Lang said he felt like Feith was indicating that Bush was not "looking" for people with introspection into Arab culture.

    For what Bush intended to do there, he didn't need nor want people who could help us "understand" the Arabs.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:35 AM  

  • Too bad he understood their language.

    Too bad he understood their people.


    Because "understanding" was the last thing on this administrations mind.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:37 AM  

  • And did you read Langs account of his interview with Wolfowitz?

    Wolfowitz was Bush's war czar and the main architect of the Iraq war. HAND PICKED by Bush.

    Wolfowitz who never served a day in uniform dismissing the recommendation of an Arab expert and former Green Beret, like he was dismissing his 6 year old daughters random babbling.

    This is incompetence on a criminal scale.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:46 AM  

  • Worf, thank you for these riveting posts. You just confirmed my whole thesis.

    By Blogger Lydia Cornell, at 11:47 AM  

  • 4 years ago we told the idiot neocons that we'd be right here, precisely where were are now.


    And here we are.


    Iraq is the "QUAGMIRE" we told them it would be.

    Iraq is a "no win" situation, precisely as we, and every military expert out there told them it would be.

    Everything is EXACTLY as we told them it would be.


    And they STILL WON'T LISTEN to us.


    Their stubborn pride, and their inability to accept the fact that they did something wrong just keeps the wax stuck in their ears, and they just won't listen to reason.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:51 AM  

  • Lydia Cornell said...
    Worf, thank you for these riveting posts. You just confirmed my whole thesis.


    I did?

    :D

    Cool.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:52 AM  

  • Wanna here some truth Lydia?

    This is "my" truth.

    There is no "War on Terror".

    The only war is a war between Fundamentalist Muslim extremists and Fundamentalist Christian extremists.


    And the rest of us are just sorta caught in the middle.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 11:59 AM  

  • Of course the term 'War on Terror' is idiotic and manipulative. We've been saying that for years. Doug and I term it "War on an abstract noun."

    By Blogger Lydia Cornell, at 12:11 PM  

  • And you're right: it's the fringe lunatics who engaged in this war: extremist fundamentalists on both sides: Christian and Muslim.

    By Blogger Lydia Cornell, at 12:13 PM  

  • And the rest of us caught in the middle.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 12:24 PM  

  • I know you and Doug see that.

    Christians have been plundering Muslim wealth since the dawn of Christianity.

    They went under the guise of preaching the gospel of Christ, but their goal was to plunder their wealth.

    Convert or die was the cry of the mother Church at rome for a thousand years.

    And now today, modern day Christians, lusting after wealth and power seek to plunder the muslim nations once more, this time for their oil.

    Our chant this time?

    Convert (to democracy) or die.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 12:27 PM  

  • Nothings changed.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 12:27 PM  

  • When a Arab ruler doesn't want to sell us oil at a rate cheaper than they sell it to all of Europe, we stir up trouble, and dispose that leader, and try to get one installed who will sell us our precious oil at a rate we want to pay.

    Its like stirring up a hornets nest, trying to insert a new queen.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 12:30 PM  

  • Lydia, i'll have to listen to the archives either later today or tomorrow,.....................But I just wanted to say I think it was brilliant to have Mike Gravel on.

    Mike Gravel is a man with NOTHING to lose.........in fact he could almost be considered a 3rd party candidate........and THATS exactly what we need, someone who will focus on REAL issues and put the truth out there.....The powers that be are always terrified of a man who has nothing to lose.

    Really looking forward to hearing your show.

    By Blogger Mike, at 12:33 PM  

  • Meanwhile Europe pays 6 dollars a gallon and doesn't complain.

    We on the other hand have to have our cheap gas.

    And our oil companies want their huge profits.

    And that means, the Arabs have to sell us their oil, at a ridiculously low rate.

    And if they don't want to, we kill them.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 12:33 PM  

  • Worf those are some great comments...........i'll have to wait to respond till probably tomorrow or later tonight because i'm kind of in the middle of something now.

    Also I KNOW Clif follows Pat Lang fairly closely............so i'm sure he'll chime in as weell!

    By Blogger Mike, at 12:35 PM  

  • OBI WAN WORFEUS said...
    Meanwhile Europe pays 6 dollars a gallon and doesn't complain.

    We on the other hand have to have our cheap gas.

    And our oil companies want their huge profits.

    And that means, the Arabs have to sell us their oil, at a ridiculously low rate.

    And if they don't want to, we kill them."

    Well worf I think those days of cheap oil are VERY soon to come to an end..........and that scares me more than you know.........because once that happens life as we know it will be over as well and the fabric of our society will very likely break apart and degenerate into chaos...........all we need for this to happen is a catalyst such as a war with Iran or China et al dumping the dollar and causing a currency panic.

    This might be the last summer I can go on a cross country drive on the motorcycle and I will most likely take advantage of that.

    By Blogger Mike, at 12:39 PM  

  • Lydia Cornell said...
    Of course the term 'War on Terror' is idiotic and manipulative. We've been saying that for years. Doug and I term it "War on an abstract noun."

    Agreed it is idiotic.....Bush uses that catchprase to hypnotize and manipulate people and I cant stand hearing that stupid phrase anymore because what he is doing is the exact opposite he's creating more terrorists rather than fighting the terrorists that actually attacked us.

    Bush Abandoned Osama and the taliban to invade iraq for oil...........NOW they are taking back Afghanistan and threatening to take over Pakistan a country which ACTUALLY has WMD and Bush and his pack of Neo Con fools do nothing..............Because the war was ALL about oil nothing more.

    By Blogger Mike, at 12:44 PM  

  • Extra5/25/2007 1:22 PM ET
    Men in their 30s lag behind fathers in pay
    There's been an interruption of the 'up escalator' that traditionally has lifted successive generations to new financial heights, researchers report.

    By The Wall Street Journal
    American men in their 30s today are worse off than their fathers' generation, a reversal from just a decade ago, when sons generally were better off than their fathers, a new study says.

    The study, the first in a series on economic mobility undertaken by several prominent think tanks, also says the typical American family's income has lagged far behind productivity growth since 2000, a departure from most of the post-World War II period.

    The findings suggest "the up escalator that has historically ensured that each generation would do better than the last may not be working very well," says the study, which is scheduled for release today.

    Video: Mobility malaise

    The study was written principally by John Morton of the Pew Charitable Trusts, which is leading the series, called the Economic Mobility Project, and Isabel Sawhill of the Brookings Institution. Other participating think tanks are the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and Urban Institute.

    In 2004, the median income for a man in his 30s, a good predictor of his lifetime earnings, was $35,010, the study says, 12% less than for men in their 30s in 1974 -- their fathers' generation -- adjusted for inflation.

    A decade ago, the median income for men in their 30s was $32,901, 5% higher (after adjusting) than 30 years earlier. Sawhill said she isn't sure why men's wages have stagnated.

    "It seems there's been some slowdown in economic growth. It's possible that the movement of women into the labor force has affected male earnings, and it's possible that men are not working as hard as they used to."

    Challenging the 'rising tide' scenario
    The study suggests that absolute mobility -- the rate at which an entire generation's lot improves relative to previous generations -- has declined. But within a particular generation, individuals can still get ahead if relative mobility, the rate at which the rich and poor trade places, remains high. Poor fathers may have rich sons, and vice versa.

    The report also says that between 1947 and 1974, productivity, or output per hour, and median family income, adjusted for inflation, both roughly doubled. Between 1974 and 2000, productivity rose 56% while income rose 29%. Between 2000 and 2005, productivity rose 16% while median income fell 2%, challenging "the notion that a rising tide will lift all boats," the report says.

    Sawhill said several factors could explain the divergence: a growing share of income going to the highest-paid workers, or to profits; an increased share of labor compensation going toward benefits such as health care; or a decline in the number of wage earners in the typical family.

    This article was reported and written by Greg Ip for The Wall Street Journal.

    By Blogger Mike, at 12:46 PM  

  • Well, the worst I think would happen Mike (unless China does try to force an economic collapse of the US, which is NOT in their best interest), is that the US might have to start paying the same as the rest of the world for our oil.

    Gas would go up to about 5 or 6 bucks a gallon, and then auto manufacturers would be FORCED to make more fuel efficient vehicles, (like most European countries have) and we'd see reduced greenhouse gas emissions and possibly an economic slowdown.

    Of course, with the demand to make more fuel efficient engines and fine alternate fuel sources, we might just see an economic surge from it, as new businesses pop up everywhere to meet with the new technologies.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 12:47 PM  

  • If the computer industry boom of the 90's taught us anything it taught us that the BEST way to stimulate a stalled economy, is the introduction of new technologies.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 12:50 PM  

  • Worf it takes YEARS to design and develop new fuel efficient cars that can be mass produced on a large enough scale..........the shock of $6-$15 dollar gas would put half the nation out of work and cause a depression and mass starvation and riots.

    THINK ABOUT IT, people making minimum wage couldnt afford to pay $15-$30 to drive to work if thats all they will make and food and all shipped goods will go up exponentially as well..............who is going to spend $10 in gas to buy a $2 burger at Mcdonalds......it would cause massive bankruptcies and unemployment and the starving masses would riot or try to take their food and THAT would be a loon like GWB's opportunity to declare martial law, seize total power and become a dictator like he has ALWAYS wanted.......................reason it out and it isnt as outlandish and crazy as it sounds!

    By Blogger Mike, at 12:54 PM  

  • I really don't think it would be that bad Mike.

    If you're right, thats not saying much for us and our ability to adapt.

    But I don't think it will be. There are new technologies already on the market, that would simply require refitting at manufacturing plants to create.

    The rush to new technologies would mean new tax dollars and grants, education and research, manufacturing, refining, supportive technoligies...

    The list goes on and on.

    I don't think you're giving Americans enough credit for their capability to adapt to a national emergency. In WW2, my mom worked in a factory that was never intended to manufacture airplane parts, but within months they had it outfitted for all sorts of new stuff.

    We adapted.

    And that was in 1941.

    I think we could handle it again.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 1:17 PM  

  • We know HOW to build more fuel efficient vehicles Mike.


    We just don't WANT to.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 1:18 PM  

  • A couple of years ago people were predicting the same time of economic collapse you are now if our gas prices climbed to 3 dollars a gallon, and that hasn't happened.

    We're still pluggin along.

    A little poorer maybe, but we still get by.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 1:21 PM  

  • Understand now Mike, I am not talking about inflated prices to pad rich oil executives pockets.

    I am talking about paying a fair market value for our oil from the Arab nations.

    When we start doing that, we'll cease to feel the need to meddle in their affairs, because purchasing oil won't be a problem.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 1:23 PM  

  • We won't need to prop up US friendly dictators to sell us oil at below bargain basement prices, and they in turn will not want to kill us for ousting their favorite Sheik.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 1:25 PM  

  • Oh sure, the economy will take an initial hit. Trucking will slow, production will slow, etc.

    But that won't last long. Manufacturers will raise prices to offset the increased shipping costs, employers will lose employees seeking higher wages, which will drive up wages across the board, and people will adjust to the increased cost of living.

    Poorer people will feel it more to be sure, as they invaribly do, but perhaps we can come up with a tax subsidy for low income families.

    Someone paying 300 dollars a month now for gas, will simply have to pay 600 dollars a month for the same gas, so vouchers or tax breaks can help her for the poorer among us.

    But at the same time businesses will be scrambling to be the first to produce new fuel efficient vehicles. Auto sales will go through the roof, as people trade in their SUV's for more fuel efficient vehicles.

    Think about it. If you drive a car that gets 15 mpg, and trade it in for a car that gets 30 mpg, then you would still be paying the same for gas at 6 dollars a gallon as you did at 3 dollars a gallon. Your out of pocket expense would be the same.

    I'm not saying it will be easy, but the flip side is to continue to extort our oil at theivery prices from the arab nations, and a continution of the killing.

    Given the two I'm willing to tighten my belt a little, and drive a little less.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 1:32 PM  

  • Just got back from a little visit to Howard Berman's house, with a passle of like-minded progressives, to express our displeasure with his non-vote. He wasn't there, but we hung out with our signs and banners along Magnolia Blvd. for a couple of hours.

    Thanks for asking about the book, Lydia! It should be done by July 14 (Lord willing!), and hopefully in bookstores by November. I went to Berkeley last week to talk to Dr. George Lakoff, the 'framing values' guy - he was fascinating.

    Basically, the book is about why conservatism is dangerous for democracy. For years now, the conservatives have claimed that liberalism is what's wrong with America, and I couldn't disagree more.

    I think conservatism can be boiled down to the idea that inequality is acceptable, and that some people are better and more deserving than others. This is in direct opposition to the ideas our nation was founded on. And the idea of accepting authority for authority's sake has brought us literally to the brink of destruction. We need to address the concept of blind obedience and how dangerous it is.

    I also talk about the authoritarian follower personality, which is the most comfortable with a conservative worldview, and the danger of them being sitting ducks for the amoral people who use them for their own selfish and destructive ends. I believe that most conservatives honestly are trying to be good people, but they are wide-open to being used for bad ends. They are the chickens who are voting for Colonel Sanders.

    I'll send you an overview.

    By Blogger Alicia Morgan, at 1:32 PM  

  • Our government will need of course to impose tighter fuel restrictions, and remove the loopholes created to permit SUV's and other large vehicles to bypass the requirements.

    Americans will have to give up their beloved SUV's but since they won't do that, they'll do the next best thing, and come up with SUV's that meet with the new fuel requirements.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 1:35 PM  

  • Alicia Morgan said...

    I also talk about the authoritarian follower personality, which is the most comfortable with a conservative worldview, and the danger of them being sitting ducks for the amoral people who use them for their own selfish and destructive ends. I believe that most conservatives honestly are trying to be good people, but they are wide-open to being used for bad ends.


    Brilliantly stated. I feel the same thing about most of them. They honestly believe they are good men and women, doing Gods work or whatever, but they just don't get the concept that our killing innocent people in Iraq is no different than the terrorists who killed innocent people here on 911.

    Because they are good people in their daily lives, they don't believe they could do wrong on a larger scale. They feel if a good man does an bad thing for reasons he feels are good, then the "thing" he did is not bad.

    Its a scary thing to look into the mind of a neocon. You are to be commended.

    I'll look for your book.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 1:43 PM  

  • worfeus here is Pat Langs website;

    Sic Semper Tyrannis 2007

    I read his, Juan Cole's, since both read Arabic, along with Larry Johnson's to get a non reichwing understanding of what is going on.

    By Blogger clif, at 2:05 PM  

  • I will have to get his book Clif.

    I really was amazed at his recounts of these "interviews" with Bush administration officials.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 2:10 PM  

  • BTW if the peak oil is here, there is NO way we can "improve" gas mileage fast enough to make up for the short falls, especially since most people don't run out and buy new cars, and a hell of a lot of people won't since they got out sourced or down sized since Bush came to power.

    I also read the Oil Drum daily to keep up there. (especially since they are mostly Insiders in the oil industry who post what they know and try to figure out how fast we w8ill be in trouble when the rest of the planet figures out the oil is going to get more scarce and expensive year after year.

    Most of them have scientific degrees and real world experience and are much better than me explaining why ethanol and hydrogen won't save us once the oil starts to run out. (which some believe it has).

    By Blogger clif, at 2:12 PM  

  • There is no defense for their dismissal of the analysis of experts in favor of the opions of their church buddies.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 2:14 PM  

  • I have seen much of these predictions Clif but I just don't see our economy as that fragile, and I have seen how easy it is to convert to alternative fuels if a company really wants to.

    In Utah, a company called "Newspaper Agency Corporation" handles distribution of the two major newspapers for Utah. The Mormon Church Owned, "Deseret News" and the Salt Lake Tribune.

    NAC distributes these papers throughout the state, and employs a fleet of light trucks and vans that numbers in the thousands.

    Well about 15 years ago, the State of Utah approached NAC and offered them huge tax and cash incentives to convert their entire fleet of vans and light trucks to natural gas.

    And NAC took them up on their offer, converting their entire fleet of thousands of vehicles in less than a year, to all natural gas.

    And they still do to this day.

    It wasn't hard. It didn't hurt business. And no one busted a nut over it.

    We can change.

    And we will. When we decide we have to.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 2:21 PM  

  • Inflating fuel prices to pad the pockets of oil executives is criminal.


    But at one point, we need to start paying more for our oil in the middle east, and stop meddling in their governments just to get someone into power who will sell it to us cheaply.

    By Blogger OBI WAN WORFEUS, at 2:39 PM  

  • Worfeus peak oil is supposed to hit sometime between 2005(yes I know it was a year and a half ago) and 2020, with peak natural gas a decade behind it, with NOTHING non the horizon to replace what OIL does for the modern industrial "just in time" society.

    It has NOTHING to do with money or even human ingenuity, but the laws of Physics, Chemistry and a little about geology.

    The laws of physics limits what is possible and chemistry demands carbon atom bonds for the most productive fuels, especially hodro carbon bonds. Gelogy limits wjhere those hydro carbon bonds will be found, and we have found MOST of it, and used up quite a lot of it.

    Since the types of hydro carbon bonds we need are very energy intensive to create in a natural process most of them are found under ground where prehistoric oceans or large temperate or tropical forests used to be, but those processes take millions if not hundreds of millions of years to create what we have burned up in a couple of centuries.

    A simple way to look at it and a title of a book I read about it is, we ar3e burning millions of years of ancient sunlight in the fuels we use, and it will take millions of years to store up the suns energy in the same form again.

    The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight is the book, by

    By Blogger clif, at 2:48 PM  

  • Thom Hartmann

    By Blogger clif, at 2:48 PM  

  • Here, you guys want to seem something funny?


    Andrew Card gets booed


    This isn't just a "handful" of protesters being led out by thicknecked and thickerheaded republican goons.

    Its like the entire freakin school.

    :D

    Theres hope for the future yet.

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